Angela Constance MSP

"Getting Things Done for People"

14 Apr 2008

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Angela Constance became a supporter of the SNP when she was still in primary school.  It was the time of the first referendum on devolution, and her class had a debate which set in her the belief that she pursues today day as an SNP MSP: "to reach our full potential, the people of Scotland need to be empowered to control all matters affecting our well being".  It was also when she was young she fancied the idea of being a parliamentarian in her own area, and she had been a local Councillor for over a decade before winning the Livingston seat for the Scottish Parliament in 2007.

Prior to becoming an MSP she also worked as a social worker at Carstairs, and this has clearly influenced her approach: "in terms of my political approach I am a pragmatist, it's about delivering tangible results, it's about getting things done for people and I suppose as a local councillor and as a social worker my focus has been a lot more on the representative part of politics and representing the opinions and views and wishes of your constituents, and that is what I see as a core part of the job".

It is also how she acquired her juggling skills, now finely tuned since the birth of her son, just months after her election.  Having six months maternity leave was never an option she explains, just a fortnight before his birth she was in to vote and following his arrival she was in to vote regularly.  She explains, "constituency work always has to be done, you can't not do that, you can't not be involved in that so it has been quite demanding but I have always juggled, always juggled.  My focus is very much on my constituency … you've got to make choices about your time.  I suppose as a social worker and councillor you did everything and I suppose now I've had to learn to use my staff and to recognise that I can't actually do everything alone and that's been a big lesson for me.  I now need to rely more on other people".

Although she always considered herself family friendly she realises that she didn't really appreciate the demands until Cyrus arrived, "I remember at the time that it became public that I was expecting people were like "how will you manage?" and I kind of downplayed all that - I was like if I need to come into Parliament to vote with my nappy bag so be it.  And that indeed was what I did do and that was what I needed to do; but that's not as easy as it sounds when you've got a four week old baby it actually really took me all day to come in with my nappy bag and Cyrus in tow".

Having Cyrus has made her think a lot about children both in Scotland and around the world, particularly around the issue of food and the importance of healthy and nutritional food as a foundation for their lives.  It has "brought home that in today's Scotland there are children who go to school hungry and that impacts on their life opportunity".  It also brought home to her the way in which we forget children in the third world: "there are children who are hungry and it is not just about the nutritional value.  It has made me think about the wider issues for children both at home and abroad and I think the SNP have noticed a need to deliver on some of these issues, continuing on good work in the past, to be fair".

This is clearly a priority for her, both locally and wider, but what is the primary thing she would like to achieve in this term of Government?  "In terms of my own constituency, housing - seeing more houses for rent, more affordable rented accommodation, has to be a key aspiration for all our constituencies.  People in Livingston are very proud of their local hospital and they want to keep it and share it.  I think the SNP will deliver huge improvements in terms of keeping healthcare local."

 

On the subject of the SNP, she explains the common values they share beyond the fundamental drive for independence, "We are very much a grassroots organisation, we're very much participative and very much we all like to have our say.  People in the SNP want to participate and shape and change the communities of Scotland for the better; they don't want to sit back and rely either on the good will or the not so good will of others - they want to be out there acting like responsible adults and doing things for ourselves - not just for the sake of Scots but hopefully to make a contribution to others in the world today who are less well off."

She jokes about SNP conference and the presence of many different people with many different opinions and clearly likes an opportunity to engage in reasoned and passionate debate, citing the debating chamber as her favourite part of the Parliament.  However, she is scathing of some of the attitudes and behaviours that are prevalent there, "I expected the Scottish Parliament in terms of the debating culture to be very different from Westminster, the name calling and the very adversarial type of debate and I think the reality is it's not that different."

Participation is a theme that runs throughout the interview and is central to the committee she sits on, the Public Petitions Committee.  She is fervent advocate for the Committee, describing it as "hugely successful and hugely innovative".  She would like to see it evolve best practice and see a more diverse range of people and groups using it, including young people.  She recommends that if people have an issue they would like to raise, just to pick up the phone and speak to a clerk to the Committee: "they are very plain speaking individuals and give great advice."

She sees the role of churches as a matter of participation and inclusion, "We are a pluralist democracy, we are meant to be a participative democracy and I think that the churches should be part of that."  She is very aware of the work churches have done in her own area on justice and peace issues and believes they should challenge the status quo and politicians.  She goes on, "I also believe churches have the right to express a view, give a view, lobby on, moral issues.  I'm quite comfortable with them doing that provided it is done with tolerance and understanding and respectful of other".

Personally she sees her faith as a private matter, not something she broadcasts but is happy to share if asked.  "I was far more inclined to go to church regularly actually when I was much younger, certainly in my late teens I was a very regular church goer and that helped me through that time in my life and that has never left but the reality is I do different things with my Sundays now."

She describes herself as a baby bore and obviously doesn't have much time beyond politics and her family, but she does try and keep fit and is training for the Edinburgh marathon.  Her best piece of advice?  "Be yourself - or you'll get found out!"