Hugh O'Donnell MSP

"There are 129 of us and we are as diverse a group of people as any."

10 Feb 2010

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Hugh O'Donnell has had a "portfolio career to date" including the civil service, teaching, supermarket management and then, at the age of 40, put himself through University whilst working for Quarriers.  Having originally joined the SDP and subsequently the Liberal Democrats when the merger took place, he says he was passive in terms of his political engagement for many years.  His family got fed up of him shouting at the television and challenged him to "go and do something" and from starting to deliver leaflets, it grew "like topsy" from there.    "Being here and doing the job that I currently do is essentially serendipity.  There was no great cunning plan to become a politician: the opportunities in my neck of the woods to become a Liberal politician were few and far between; until fairly recently it has been predominantly a Labour fiefdom."

When the legislation for the Scottish Parliament was enacted that situation changed and he helped get Donald Gorrie elected as a list MSP for central Scotland and went on to work for him in the Parliament.  He has been working at the Parliament since 1999, being selected and subsequently elected for the Lib Dems following Gorrie's retirement in 2007.    Describing himself as starting life as a "wee naff" from the East End of Glasgow, he believes that the diverse backgrounds of his fellow MSPs really benefits the Parliament bringing "at least some understanding of some of challenges that people face.  There are 129 of us and we are as diverse a group of people as any.  There are almost no career politicians, those who have fallen out of the Oxbridge sausage factory and straight into candidacy.  We literally have doctors, bakers, candlestick makers…"

His political affiliation suits his worldview, he explains, "I'm liberal by instinct" and "for the most part, I like the approach, the individual approach and the balance between individual responsibility, collective responsibility and society."  Working as an MSP has given him huge opportunities to pursue his own interests within that, although at times he struggles with the frustrations of the job; "getting a tangible outcome is quite challenging" and he's not used to that.   However, he keeps in his mind what his PA said to him:  "your outcome is ensuring that the process and the system of governance that we have doesn't disadvantage people and if it does you're there to make sure, as much as it is possible to do, that disadvantage is kept to minimum."

This may lead you to believe that his role is more audit and oversight than it really is.  Hugh has pursued his deep concern for the rights of women and minority groups for many years. "Wherever you are in life there are always different opportunities to bring your philosophical or ideological view to bear on things; a little bit more justice, a little bit more equality."  But why?  "I just don't like injustice.  It jars with me".  This moral basis and instinct can be traced to his Roman Catholic upbringing and has manifested itself in his work in the field of disability rights.  When he worked for Quarriers, a lot of his work was about widening the potential for social participation: "a lot of the people that I was working with there had been in institutions for long and weary… and shunted from pillar to post."

Driven in part by these experiences, Hugh has recently launched a member's Bill on proposals for a Scottish Autism Strategy to try and tackle the "postcode lottery of effectiveness in terms of the service delivery… a bit like the curate's egg, it's good in some parts and in other parts it's awful."  There is no national approach, and that is what he seeks to change through his Bill.  There aren't even reliable statistics on how many people in Scotland have autism, although it could be as many as 50-60,000 and Scotland remains the only part of the UK where there is "no plan or strategy at a national level."  The approach he has taken in the proposed Bill is simple for a number of reasons; as a backbencher he didn't feel it was appropriate for to tell the Government what should be in its strategy, "I'm simply trying to get them to have a strategy" and when preparing the Bill he was "acutely aware of the economic times in which we live and that lumbering either a central government or local authorities or health boards with a hugely expensive piece of legislation would not be welcomed"  What he has put forward rather, is merely a first step and as such he will be "really disappointed if the Government don't support it because they have spoken long and eloquently about how much they are doing for people with autism.  Let's see them consolidate that by supporting my proposal."

Sitting on the Parliament's Equal Opportunities Committee has enabled him to put disability rights and other concerns on the agenda, citing the recent report on the sexualised goods aimed at children as an example of this.  However, there is a frustration on his part about constraints that the Committee faces as the equalities legislation is reserved to Westminster: "why that was done I'm not quite sure and it causes some conflict in areas where we would perhaps like to go.  It gives me particular angst in relation to Dungavel because what is happening there doesn't sit well with the general Scottish philosophy of how people should be treated, never mind a Liberal Democrats' philosophy."  He goes further, "the UKBA [the UK Border Agency] really doesn't want to talk to MSPs and that's a shame, that's a shame."

Another area where he has rubbed up against tensions between reserved and devolved matters is in his work in Gaza where he has been involved in delivering humanitarian aid to the people there.  "We've had some rumblings from Westminster about some of our involvement in Gaza and quite frankly, too bad, I'm not remotely interested.  I'm more interested in doing what I can for those people and for the people in that area, than I am about playing party politics between Westminster and the devolved administration."  There is "limited scope" for the Scottish Parliament to get involved internationally, he says, provided it is done on a humanitarian basis and, without it becoming a "political football", he would like to see the Scottish Parliament explore and engage more in this area.   Recently he went to Gaza, "on the basis of "we've got humanitarian aid here" for a population that is under siege because they took a democratic decision to elect a Government which subsequently nobody else liked."  He's keen to insist that he's not saying that Hamas are a good organisation but that he is outraged at the "collective punishment of an entire population" and argues that putting "one and a half million people in what is effectively a big prison" will not "solve the problems in the middle east".

Internationally, Hugh has also been involved in work through the Westminster Foundation in helping emerging countries grow as democracies; recently delivering training to Macedonian MPs and in 2001 was one of 8 Scots chosen by the United Nations to supervise the first ever free elections in the former Yugoslavian province of Kosovo.   This passion for democracy and his fierce concern for equality is evident when asked about the churches role in politics.  "Churches and religious organisations have as much right to have their voices, opinions and concerns aired and listened to as any other sector and if that is done in a constructive, proactive way all the better.  I'm not comfortable with anyone branding another sector of society as not appropriate to further their own agenda.  But I'm prepared to listen and hear, and do hear on a fairly regular basis from members of different congregations and different religions".  In the coming months he expects to hear in increasing numbers from religious people in relation to Margo MacDonald's End of Life Assistance Bill but offers to save them an email by saying, "I didn't sign the proposal and I won't support the Bill."

Outside of politics, Hugh likes to spend time on his "little Greek island", and spends his Sundays at the Greek Orthodox Church in Glasgow and "desperately trying to learn Greek properly".  However, a wee insight into his personality emerges when he explains that he has even been involved in politics in Greece, "helping get the town council elected".