Katy Clark MP

"if you are involved then you might as well try and have as strong a voice as you can"

16 Dec 2010

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Katy joined the Labour Party in the 1980s on a demonstration against pit closures. At the time she was at school in South Ayrshire and 10,000 jobs were at threat in the Killoch pits (which was the only coal mine in Ayrshire at that time) and those jobs were lost. Her decision to join the Labour Party at that time was influenced by these local and national events.

When asked what had prompted her to stand as an MP, Katy replied "Lots of things. I was involved in politics, I was involved in the Labour Party and I was involved in lots of campaigns and it seemed to me that if you are involved then you might as well try and have as strong a voice as you can and standing to be an MP was one of the ways to do that, to try and get my voice heard." Whilst acknowledging that sometimes being an MP feels like she is banging her head against a brick rather than making a different she remains convinced that it is a way of getting her voice heard.

As a teenager Katy wanted to be an airline pilot. She gave up this ambition when, aged 14, she was first told that she would not be strong enough to be an airline pilot and then became short sighted. She later discovered that it was possible to wear contact lenses and be a civilian airline pilot and muses how different her life might have been had she known this at the time.

Citing family members as one of her most significant influences Katy explains that she was brought up listening to stories about how her family had struggled to try and make things better for their communities. She is also conscious of the struggle for women's rights; from the suffragettes to the ways in which women have fought have a say and influence. However, she reflects "I suspect that if I hadn't come from a family that was quite political it might not have occurred to me that I could get involved too."

Regarding the role of churches in politics Katy thinks that churches "should play a strong role in fighting for what they believe in and for their values. I think it's always difficult for the churches because the reality is that people of all sorts of different political persuasions are … members of each church and that's completely correct so I think it's dangerous territory if churches start telling people how to vote." She would like to see churches more actively involved in the political process on issues that are important to them. Categorising these as the fight against the huge levels of poverty seen both in this country and internationally, and the huge inequalities in wealth and power; Katy sees a huge role for the churches speaking on those issues of social justice.

Looking at the list of Early Day Motions that Katy has tabled or signed a strong theme of consumer protection emerges. When asked what led her to be interested in these issues she replied that "you get interested in anything that affects your constituents" and because she represents an area in which there are high issues of deprivation, high levels of unemployment and all the social problems that come with that, she sees a lot of people who do not have access to bank accounts or to credit cards or loans. She explains that "takes you on to the whole agenda of consumer rights. I suppose I am coming at it very much from the perspective of individuals who are really at the sidelines of a lot of these issues." Acknowledging that consumer rights affect people of any income she emphasises that she is most concerned with helping people who are on the fringes of society.

The Big Society is a cause of concern for Katy as thinks it may be a distraction from the reality of the spending cuts that we are about to experience. Her expectation is that the spending cuts will target some of the poorest and most vulnerable in our society. She feels that the reality is that many voluntary organisations in Scotland are heavily dependent on public sector grants for support saying "(w)e are going to see those kinds of cuts in public spending, that's going to affect those voluntary organisations and really talking about a Big Society is therefore going to become quite irrelevant."

Moving on to discuss welfare reform Katy considers how the impact of the proposals will vary between different communities, "there is no doubt … that the experience in London is going to be very, very different to the experience on Arran". In particular Katy highlights that the impact of the housing benefit cap will be irrelevant to large parts of Scotland because rents are not at the level which will be affected by the cap. She contrasts this with the potentially devastating impact of taking 10% off someone's housing benefit if they become long term unemployed in areas of high unemployment including the West of Scotland and North Ayrshire.

Katy went on to explain that the Government's emergency budget affects women disproportionately because "(t)he reality is that because of the way women live their lives, because of the fact that they tend to be on lower incomes and the discrimination there has been against women for such a long time, the fact that women have children and that women disproportionately take time off work to care for those children, and indeed to care for others in the community, whether they are relatives or not it means that they are disproportionately reliant on the public sector." Overall, Katy suggests, the expected cuts in public spending will mean that women suffer the most.

Becoming an MP rather than an MSP was a decision taken because of a feeling that Westminster was were the decisions were made, which is not to say that she sees herself as the decision maker - "I think wherever you are you feel the decisions are made somewhere else"; in this case by a centralisation of power in the Executive who, Katy suggests, are curtailed by other forces in society such as the influence of big business and the financial sectors. However, she stands by her decision because "at the end of the day it's up to Westminster how much money goes to the Scottish Parliament and you know I think most of the decisions here actually have a bigger impact because it's about whether we have the money there, whether we have the framework there that's actually going to make a difference." While agreeing that the Scottish Parliament does incredibly good work she sees differences between the two Parliaments saying "(a)t the end of the day I felt that I would be of most use here, but I think I also felt that I would be more likely to be freer to have political views that perhaps might be more difficult to have in the Scottish Parliament." Katy considers that as a Westminster Member of Parliament there is a tradition of having more freedom and being less heavily whipped than the Scottish system, where it is generally expected that MSPs do what their parties tell them to do; very few MSPs break the whip on the basis of their conscience.

When asked for her views on the forthcoming Scotland Bill she responded that she hoped the Scottish Parliament would "have some guts and use the Scotland Bill." Highlighting that the Scottish Parliament has had access to tax raising powers for the whole period of its existence, although she does note that perhaps the powers had been given away for a period of time, she is interested that there has never been a serious debate about their use: "I support the Parliament getting more powers but I think we really need to think about why they've not used the powers they have already."

And what is Katy's biggest passion outside politics? Her 18 month old daughter!