James Kelly MSP

"You can't win elections if you can't explain what you're actually standing for"

20 Sep 2011

Download PDF (50k)

Download Word .doc (400k)

There is a saying 'if you want to get something done, ask a busy person'. As Deputy Convener of both the Justice Committee and the Scotland Bill Committee, Labour Shadow Minister for Justice, as well as working tirelessly in his constituency of Rutherglen, James Kelly MSP is indeed a busy person around the corridors of Holyrood.

Growing up as the oldest of seven children in Halfway in Cambuslang, James developed a keen interest in politics from a young age. As a young person growing up and learning about politics in the 1970s, Martin Luther King had a big impression on James. He admired the courage he showed in standing up for what he believed in, and that is something which still resonates with James today.  He vividly recalls watching the February 1974 General Election with great interest too, and looks back on it as another of the contributory factors in his decision to become more politically active.  Growing up in "a relatively modest background" in Cambuslang, James also owes a lot to his parents, who "brought us up properly to do well, to work hard, to do your best, and to treat people properly, and I was always aware of a sense of real fairness as I grew up; the idea of doing the right thing." When he joined the Labour Party in 1981, the Conservatives had just come into power, and there were factory closures in his local area, with many of those who lost their jobs never finding work again.  That was the final impetus for James to get more involved and to stand up for his beliefs. In 2005 a vacancy arose in his local constituency for a candidate, and a number of people approached James to suggest that he put himself forward.  "I regarded it as an honour to have the opportunity to stand for Labour and to represent my local area. I'd done a lot of the work in the party, but I regarded it as an exciting opportunity, not only to represent the local area but to speak about things that I felt strongly about." In 2007, James was elected, and returned as constituency MSP again in 2011.

His impression of the results of the 2011 Scottish election on the Labour Party is pragmatic. "I think it's absolutely clear that we suffered a major loss. We lost the confidence of a lot of voters who had always voted Labour, and we also failed to win voters…. Our message wasn't clear enough in 2011, or 2007 for that matter. You can't win elections if you can't explain what you're actually standing for."  He therefore believes that the problems in the Scottish Labour Party can be remedied in two ways: "we need to come up with a programme that clearly communicates our message, and we also need an organisation that backs that up."  The importance of local community-based activism is key in James' opinion: "we need to produce an organisation which is rooted in communities, which works cohesively and collectively together and taps into the young, inexperienced talent we've got in the party and ensures that they become our advocates for the 21st century."  However, reforming the Scottish Labour Party will take time. Meanwhile, he is aware that things will be very different for Labour MSPs in this Parliament compared to the experiences of previous years. For now, the reality for Labour MSPs is that they are numerically depleted from previous years, and are still considering how best to deal with the fact that the SNP has a majority in the Parliament and on every Committee: "we'll need to assess our strategy in terms of what we can realistically achieve, and what we need to be saying in the Parliament to reflect what people will be saying out in the community, so if there are issues like knife crime for example where we feel the SNP are not doing enough, we need to be prepared to speak out."

As an opposition member on two of the Parliament's committees, the Justice Committee and the Scotland Bill Committee, James notes that "on every committee the SNP have the majority and are able to impose their will if you like. But that has to be tempered with responsibility." Speaking of the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Bill which is currently being considered by the Justice Committee, he was pleased that "because of the weight of the evidence that people were giving to the committee, that played a part in resulting in the SNP Government pulling back from the initial timetable and allowing for greater consideration, so there are other pressures that can be brought to bear."  On the legislation itself, he acknowledges that "sectarianism is a complex issue, and it's not just about passing laws; it's about working with communities, working in the education system, working with young people, educating people to change attitudes in society. It's absolutely clear that if people behave unacceptably outwith the law, they should be prosecuted, but it is important that if we're putting new laws in place, that the new laws are effective and they can have the confidence of the prosecutors, the police and the public. The bill as drafted has raised serious questions about that. For it to be acceptable it will need some work done on it."

James also sits on the Scotland Bill Committee, which has also hit the ground running in the new Parliamentary session. MSPs are re-considering the provisions in the UK Parliament bill before the Scottish Parliament will be required to debate and pass a Legislative Consent Motion (LCM) to consent to the UK Parliament legislating on their behalf.  This process had begun prior to the election, with a Scotland Bill Committee convened by former Labour leader Wendy Alexander which had reported, and the Scottish Parliament had passed an LCM, albeit with some caveats to be revisited in this Parliamentary session.  James, however, is concerned about the potential impact of an SNP majority on the future of this legislation: "overall the Scotland Bill passes more powers to Scotland, and brings greater responsibility to Scotland… and I would hope that the SNP would not use their majority irresponsibly to vote down the LCM."  However, he notes that during the election campaign "none of the issues around the Scotland Bill were ever raised with me on the doorstep - it didn't seem to be an issue that was massively to the forefront of the public's attention."

The need to react to what he's hearing "on the doorstep" is something which James thinks is lacking in the SNP's recently announced Programme for Government.  He was particularly disappointed to note that there was no mention of a Victims of Crime Bill.: "This is something the SNP promised at the election but haven't brought forward in their legislative programme.  What I find in the constituency that I represent is that, for people who have lost loved ones through murder or serious incidents, it's not just the stress of losing someone, it's the way that victims and their families are treated in the criminal justice system.  The system … is not fit for purpose in terms of helping victims overcome the difficulties that they face, and also ensuring speedy justice is enacted."  He was also critical of the proposed economic strategy being taken forward by the Scottish Government: "It's not just about looking at the high-level economic indicators about whether unemployment has gone up and down each month. The reality is that on the ground, too many young people are leaving school and college and not going into work. That not only is a waste, but it can create other problems in society and in the community, and that's something that the SNP government's economic strategy must do more to address."

However, although critical of the likely policy direction of the current government, James is positive about the track record of the Scottish Parliament on social justice issues, and finds Cross Party Groups have an important role to play in continuing the good work. He is currently Co-Convener of CPGs on Co-operatives and Fair Trade, and sits on another CPG on Credit Unions. He values them because: "you can have a discussion around the Parliament about issues which haven't been formally tackled in Parliament proceedings, and can allow members to raise them either in Parliamentary Questions or Members' Debates." This is perhaps one of the ways in which opposition MSPs will be able to hold the majority SNP Parliament to account.

It has been a busy few months since gaining re-election for James, but he still finds time to unwind, enjoying running which he says "blows the cobwebs away". He recently completed the 13 mile Great Scottish Run.  He also enjoys spending time with his family, wife Alexa and daughters Carys and Erin who are 11 and 13, "so a good age, and they certainly keep my feet firmly on the ground".   However, no matter how busy life gets, James is careful to pay heed to a piece of advice which he has heard repeatedly: "some people go into politics, and other positions in life, and they get too carried away with the position, and the status… You've got to remember where you came from, who you're representing and be realistic then about what you're about." With his family behind him, and his ability to be pragmatic about the work that can be done by Scottish Labour and individual MSPs in the Parliament, James' feet will be kept firmly on the ground, except, of course, when he is running!